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Oh joy! Another week, another bunch of accounts from hotmail/gmail/wathever that got busted.
As usual, newspapers, pigs and dogs start talking about crackers, hackers and all sort of pirats. And, as usual again, it turns out that most of the passwords "cracked" where of the '123456' sort, or sometimes the much more secure '123456789'. None of them I consider "passwords".
As usual, I find myself thinking: now, if those bunch of morons were to found theirs bank account emptied, I'd be very happy indeed. Because I know that these peoples have the exact same 'security' in place for their bank accounts. And maybe they also complaints about the "privacy" in the office.
When are we going to understand that the password is the first (and most of the time the only) line of defense against all kind of assholes on the internet? And that the first ones that should begin to take care of our own security?
Sgrunt.
Davide Bianchi
07/10/2009 16:05
Comments are added when and more important if I have the time to review them and after removing Spam, Crap, Phishing and the like. So don't hold your breath. And if your comment doesn't appear, is probably becuase it wasn't worth it.
Niente By Massimiliano posted 07/10/2009 16:39
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Kettaspettavi?!? By Pozzame posted 07/10/2009 17:00
Keddire... La mamma degli imbecilli e' sempre incinta. E direi ke si e' data un sako da fare!! -- Pozzame
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@ Pozzame By Davide Bianchi posted 07/10/2009 20:10
Che e' successo ai tasti 'c' ed 'h' della tua tastiera?
-- Davide Bianchi
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L'unico commento... By A. Tortella posted 07/10/2009 17:23
Buon fine giornata, D. -- A. Tortella
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cut&paste By Michele P. posted 07/10/2009 17:32
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Anche in Italia... By Verzasoft posted 07/10/2009 17:52
E ho pensato. Hotmail, yahoo, google, tutti hackerati e tutti contemporaneamente. Credibile, no?
E mia mamma in parte: "ma allora anche la mia posta può essere hackerata!"
E giù lo spiegone che "se il fantomatico hacker chiede, e il giocondo utente gliela dice c'è niente da fare".
fast-forward al giorno dopo, quando, via sms, mi chiede di risolvergli un problema sul pc. Sempre via sms allora gli indico di fare una modifica al router per farmi accedere (no, non avevo impostato il router per l'accesso dall'esterno).
Risposta, VIA SMS: "come faccio a essere sicura che sei tu e non un hacker?"
:S ..... -- Verzasoft
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Phishing? By Bluepil posted 07/10/2009 17:55
Sono d'accordo sul resto, comunque.
D. -- Bluepil
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@ Bluepil By Davide Bianchi posted 07/10/2009 20:12
La mia teoria e' che se NON usi una password come '123456' significa che il tuo cervello funziona ancora ed hai buone possibilita' di NON cascare nella rete dal phishiatore.
-- Davide Bianchi
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@ Davide Bianchi By Rick posted 07/10/2009 22:00
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> La mia teoria e' che se NON usi una password come '123456' significa che il tuo cervello funziona ancora ed hai buone possibilita' di NON cascare nella rete dal phishiatore.
>
Sono d'accordo, ma certe volte non c'è nulla da fare..
Nella rete che amministro c'è l'immancabile access point (super eco, ovviamente) e sono riuscito ad impostarlo in WPA con una password complessa per il Brute Force (spero) ma sufficientemente mnemonica per i primati evoluti (o dovrebbero esserlo, essendo tutti programmatori/PM ex programmatori/commerciali ex tecnici etc etc ).
La dura realtà è che i primati non riescono a digerire la password ma per fortuna ho fatto un piccolo package per configurarla in automatico senza farmi scassare i cabbasisi, finché non è arrivato LUI, l'IFONE 3Gs (la s conta), questo ameno cumulo di cinese compresso strapagato NON digerisce la connessione che 50 portatili possono usare in letizia... Immediatamente la colpa viene data alla mia password da paranoico (regolare..) e mi tartassano le balle finchè non ne metto una tipo "pippopippo" (giuro, sotto costrizione di uno dei proprietari), il maledetto attrezzo NON funziona lo stesso.. Passiamo a WEP mi dice il padrone! Ed io sconcertato passo a WEP.. il magnifico cesso si collega e soddisfatto mi fa:"Ma perchè non passiamo a WEP?"
AYEEEE!!
Non ci credo.. rispondo che il WEP è una chiavica e con quella password poi la sicurezza è inesistente.
Non convinto mi fa:" Ma QUANTO è insicuro?"
argghh..
"meno di dieci minuti con un portatile cesso" rispondo io.
Rattristato ma non convinto mi consente di ripristinare WPA con la password complessa..
Sono certo che fra poco mi faranno comprare un'altro access-point economicissimo per provare se il merdafonino si collega con le mie impostazioni paranoiche, ma l'opzione WEP è sempre in agguato assieme allo smazzamento di 50 portatili che stanno parecchio in diro e devi beccare al volo come i tordi.
Come vedi se non ci fossi io ad inimicarmi tutto il manglement, la direzione e quant'altri a quest'ora farei parte del numero di quelli forati, con lo sculo di beccarmi pure la colpa
Un saluto
Ric
-- Rick
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non serve nemmeno arrestarli By Adriano posted 07/10/2009 21:26
(la stessa notizia, scegliete dove preferite leggerla)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/09/27/conputer-meltdown-115875-21703149/
http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/10/07/1347243/Cyber-criminal-Left-In-Charge-of-Prison-Computer-Network
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/29/inmate_hacker/
... -- Saludos
Adriano
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E anche nelle aziende non č molto meglio... By Alessandro galimberti posted 07/10/2009 23:13
"Mail $viaggi_ventilati
utente sono.scemo@$viaggi_ventilati.com
pwd sonsce (le prime tre lettere del nome e le prime tre del cognome)
VPN
utente sono.scemo
pwd sonsce"
no comment...
-- Alessandro galimberti
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Spaceballs!!! By Golan Trevize posted 08/10/2009 08:43
-- Golan Trevize
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2009... By Anonymous coward posted 11/10/2009 12:36
Welcome in 2009...
What about Keepass -> truecrypt -> dropbox? -- Anonymous coward
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@ Anonymous coward By Davide Bianchi posted 11/10/2009 12:43
What about making up a password that doesn't suck and you can remember?
-- Davide Bianchi
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@ Davide Bianchi By Anonymous coward posted 11/10/2009 13:28
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> What about making up a password that doesn't suck and you can remember?
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The same one for all the internet account???
bad idea, whatever you password is... -- Anonymous coward
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@ Anonymous coward By Davide Bianchi posted 11/10/2009 14:28
> > What about making up a password that doesn't suck and you can remember?
>
> The same one for all the internet account???
Where did I say "same for all" ?
-- Davide Bianchi
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@ Davide Bianchi By Anonymous coward posted 11/10/2009 14:41
> > > What about making up a password that doesn't suck and you can remember?
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> > The same one for all the internet account???
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> Where did I say "same for all" ?
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I assume, that it's really hard remember more than three, four password "strong"...so, in your post you had written "password" as singular...so I thought that you were for "one password" and "many account"
In other words...you can really remember several strong password, without any kind of archivement software like what I mentioned?
-- Anonymous coward
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@ Anonymous coward By Davide Bianchi posted 11/10/2009 16:11
Yes I can, and no, I'm not some kind of weird superhuman being with a perfect memory. The trick is to use a system that allow you to tie a password to a server or a service and helps you in remembering what kind of password could it be without dumb it down to the point where it becomes a 1234 thing.
Example: mail server, ok, think at something related to the mail server actual name or about 'mail' in general (what's the name of your postman?), instead of a single word make a small sentence gluing together a couple of words, now "scramble" it replacing 'i' with '1' or similar and capitalizing the letters in an uncommon way. Here you go. You have an "hard" password that is, however, simple to remember if you did it correctly.
Change the passwordS every now and then and you'll be fine.
No need to use any kind of crap that stores passwords and then you lose all of them at once.
-- Davide Bianchi
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@ Davide Bianchi By Anonymous coward posted 11/10/2009 23:11
> No need to use any kind of crap that stores passwords and then you lose all of them at once.
>
Tricky, as usual for you, but sorry no, you have not convinced me...I think that this method it's ok for a small number of password (right 30 to 50 maybe) but for a large number of password (bigger than 300 for example, or in professioanl use) I think that someone problem appear...
By the way, at this time we are also in democracy (not for a long time here, as you know I'm Italian..)at every man can use his preferred method to store/set its passwordS.... -- Anonymous coward
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@ Anonymous coward By Davide Bianchi posted 12/10/2009 08:30
I've managed a network with 47 offices in 42 lands and didn't needed 300 passwords to do it. If you need so many maybe you should review your method.
> By the way, at this time we are also in democracy (not for a long time here, as you know I'm Italian..) at every man can use his preferred method to store/set its passwordS....
Yep. As long as is not '123456'.
-- Davide Bianchi
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